DC- staff, residents,
KB- twining, van der mark
BT- staff, residents, burns,
AP- burns, residents, developer, owner rep,
BG- gruel, van der mark, mckeon
BB- williams
JC
DC- landscaping responsibility off Taylor?
JC- property owner. condition will require dedication of portion to the city
DC- check dvd
BT- in industrial zoning a cup is required when a propoed building within 300 ft of residential
JC- multiple trigges
BT- discussed sound study. what was and wasn't required.
?, Somas, did sound study based on - check dvd. detailed the sound study
BT- why things were omitted
Somas, already cushion built in to accommodate equipment noises, etc.
BT- recommendations in study. prohibiting back up alarms at night. why was this not included in conditions of approval
JC- did explore. determined it's an OSCA requirement and cannot be prohibited. noise study showed it did not exceed noise limits
BT- 9 ft fences. no variance??
JC- reviewed code.
RR-reviewed code
BT- why does ?? apply to project
JC- was not submitted during the bill date
BB- somas report, page 5,
AP- height. clarify. why cladding used? check dvd?
JC- typical for screening mechanical equipment
AP- when Walmart was built was a lot of community input. concerned with 24/7 operation. do we have a code to limit 24/7?
JC- no limit, multiple examples, like walmart. walmart had a 8 ft wall.
AP- noise study. is there a frequency of decibels or are there peaks?
Somas- based on code. average noise level over hour period
JC- also limits from 10pm-7am to be consistent with noise code.
AP- 12 trucks per hour a normal frequency?
JC- worst case scenario.
AP- do we have a code that regulates that
JC- noise ordinance
BT- fence code again.
Jill- reviewed
BG- SAFER withdrew?
JC- correct
BG- wall appeal from Burns? amny specific?
JC- unclear
BG- a higher wall would help with noise, yes?
JC- yes
check dvd
DC- noise question
Somas- technical descritpion
BB- 95 truck loads per day, but 85 during day. so only ten during night
JC- correct
BB- could we condition this?
JC- yes but would advise speaking to applicant
BB- the higher the wall, the more it displaces sound
Somas- yes but there is a limit. over 20 ft will not displace more
JC- in addition to permiter wall, there is a u shaped inclosure for truck court area surroounded by building
BB- any onsite tanks
JC- previously tank but was removed.
BB- fire dept oversaw?
Steve Eros- county. but fire works hand in hand in soils investigation
BB- railroad track removed?
JC- separate owner but reliable lumber is currently only stop
OPEN
Matthew Biggs, applicant, spoke in support, reviewed project, designed to reduce impacts, minimize noise and increase functionality, complies with zoning and standards,
Ronald Wolf, resident, get noise and crime impacts from railroad. sound will carry a lot at night, would request no overnight deliveries. will have sig noise impacts.
Alan Fenstenmacher, applicant lawyer, here for questions, this is very legall defensible.
Taylor, resident with donated time from Murnez Blades and Heyman, asks for EIR. MND ignores precompromised health of neightboring residents. please lower the threshold of signifigance, dust, etc. groundwater concerns due to pollution, mnd used industrial standards. thinks study inadequate, discussed different toxic risks, different health concerns for adjacent residents, legacy toxins,
Irene Contreras Garcia, resident, city took home by imminent domain abd bought in this residence. lumber yard makes noise but not to this degree. why do you need 40 ft buildings? why do we need deliveries in the middle of the night? who will enforce the conditions/codes? think about the community, nothing around thats this height. why reports inconsitent, when was noise study completed, need a large wall to buffer noise, dust,
Steve Grolende, resident, house built at same time as lumber yard. grew up near industrial. nothing was open all night. so this business should not operate at night. noise impacts. noise only buffered by buildings in some areas. Ask to be daytime only.
Daniel Tassa, resident, concerned with noise impacts particularly at night. insufficient specifics about the business, delivery frequency, hours of operation, delivery windows, traffic, neighborhood compatibility, parking impacts,
Bill Cuppy, resident, 40 ft buildings next to residential is outlandish. current construction is usually 30 ft with 4 ft parapet. hours of operation. back up alarms, noise impacts, 14 ft wall would be reasonable, the walmart wall is 12-14 ft. noise impacts, no trucks after 10pm. the road is insufficent for truck traffic
Dale Fike, resident, houses in neighborhood re already up for sael. concerned with noise, proposed wall not high enough, current wall needs repair/replacements, concerned with hours of operation, - 24/7 ridiculous with adjacent residential
Jerry Vinland, resident, concnered with health impacts from diesel engine exhaust, life expectancy impacted, community does not deserve this.
Shelby, resident, gave pc a report. feels the rules are being changed, thinks needs new sound study, should limit hours, concerned with noise and hours, inconsistencies, sidewalk? truck circulation? what will the use be? parking hours? air monitoring and emissions? need that for toxic soil in the site
Alice Fike, resident, want a wall for sound and privacy, sensitive receptiors in the neighborhood, thinks mnd insufficient analysis for adjacent residents, pollution, noise impats, air monitoring, soil concerns, address issues please, diesel impacts,
Cesar Lamas, Larbor Intl Union, projects like this are opportunities for laborers/veterans/etc, spoke in support,
Larry Bustos, Labor union, support, this redevelopment briings in new investment to the city, project will be union built, create critical pathways for apprenticeship into unions. responsible reinvestment, smart long term win for community and local workers
CLOSED
DC- not opposed to project, zoned industrial, need to modernize. think the sound study is inadequate. would support condition to limit or eliminate trucks at night.
DC- contrast current and future. current hours of operation?
JC- up to 6pm mon-fri,
resident- amd saturday
KB- start time?
JC- believe 6 to 6
David Aikman, owner, operate from 7 to 7, and on weekends.
DC- truck trips per day?
DA- 30?
MB- varies. can be 70, can be 25. very different operation from proposed use.
DC- equipment used daily?
DA- 13 forklifts, 7-8 trucks onsite and triple that from offsite.
DC- 9 ft wall proposed. can we go higher?
JC- the code allows up to 9 feet IN the setback. higher would require a separate entitlement.
KB- how many trucks at night? only one?
MB- that's noise study. 6 per building per hour.
KB- all day?
JC- at night that's the limit
BT- would you consider adjustment to siteplan? not happy with sound study. 80 ft opening between. spoke at length about a design he preferred.
MB- risk to truck flow operations. buildings designed intentionally. don't see that as a feasible change
BT- but it's 80 ft
MB- we worked through several iterations of design, this is the most effiicient
BT- think you should redesign and need a more adequate sound study.
AP- agree with need for better sound study, would also prefer reconfiguration. too tall. 40 ft is too much and also will impact open air
MB- building has 32 ft ceilings with 4 ft, buildings will range from 34-40 ft to keep a consistent
AP- can you bring it down to 36 ft?
MB- no we cannot
AP- inconsistent with neightborhood
MB- trying to build a feasible project and a lease-able project. this is the min height that would sell.
BG- 9 ft wall but it is on a retaining?
JC- check dvd
BG-
JC- if there's an existing retaining wall then the wall would be allowed on top
BG- any room at reducing night time activity.
MB- can settle on total trucks per night.
BB- did you have a community meeting?
MB- yes
BB- how many attended?
MB- 40?
BB- 95 truck loads, but 85 supposed to be between 8am - 7pm. This is a condition?
JC- those were the assumptions, but what complies with the code it is 6 per building per hour at night.
BB- so how many?
BB- who enforces? PD?
JC- after hours. Code Enf during day.
DC- max height is residential?
JC- 35 ft
AP-
DC- if we limit per night, what woud the app want?
MB- what we have found is that limited operations makes them unsuccessful to lease.
check dvd
bg- would rather vote on project
check oin motions,
2 motions.
then
clifford motion, no second
babineau motion
Bush - don't want to get us into the habit of being designers.